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]]> feeds@yuku.com (rubicon) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/288 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:55:19 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/reply/287/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html#reply-287 Scott:

I might add to my earlier post here by mentioning the Simplicity Principle which states: A genius is one who takes the complicated and makes it simple. An idiot is one who takes something simple and makes it complicated. I would put Dr. Feige in the first category. I'll let you decide who best fits the second category.

By the way, have you been following the IRS v. Wesley Snipes case? I just read on the Drudge Report he got the max for three... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (rubicon) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/287 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:21:17 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/reply/286/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html#reply-286
In my inimitable style let me first suggest that making a mammoth change to the tax system to effect a tax neutrality between you and your neighbor might be considered overkill.

Humor aside, the rationale you are expressing begs a couple of questions. First, many of the motivational, incentivizing and the delimiting aspects of the current system are not easily, if at all, effectable through the spending side of legislation. Harry Truman, among others, recognized... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Art A Layman) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/286 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:34:37 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/reply/285/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html#reply-285 Scott:

I'd like to think you can dialog with Art in good faith. Yet I seriously doubt he will reciprocate in kind. It seems to me he's on a mission to rain on the APT parade. I don't pretend to know his motives. I can only say from observation he appears to be a propagandist for the ultra-left. A part of me regrets this. Art has posted here and has been a part of the discussion for so long, he's like family. I wish I could say I'm wrong, but I don't... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (rubicon) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/285 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:42:32 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/reply/284/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html#reply-284 feeds@yuku.com (boydsd) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/284 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:47:01 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/reply/250/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html#reply-250
Geez, thanks! ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Art A Layman) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/250 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 03:12:47 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/reply/249/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html#reply-249
Art A Layman:

Figurative speech seems to trouble you, however this bears repeating. My attempt to appeal to the better angels in you has been in vain. And I've just about lost any hope for your redemption. You seem content to impress yourself with your erudite blather.

Your assertion that APT is pretty well snuffed out at this point betrays your desire to see it so. There's something fundamentally pathological about the need to beat down an idea you claim... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (rubicon) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/249 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:22:23 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/reply/244/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html#reply-244
My appeal to the better angels in you seems to be in vain.

I have no angels, better or worse, in me. I am a realist. I do not look at issues through rose colored glasses, enabling me to only see positives with no regard for the real life negatives.

You seem quite determined that the pernicious APT should be snuffed out before it can possibly take hold.

There is no need for me to attempt to snuff out APT before it takes hold.... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Art A Layman) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/244 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:27:51 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/reply/240/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html#reply-240 Art A Layman:

My appeal to the better angels in you seems to be in vain. You certainly are a man on a mission. You seem quite determined that the pernicious APT should be snuffed out before it can possibly take hold. Your posting here goes well beyond what is appropriate to this discussion forum. Your posts betray an ego out of control. There's no give and take with you. No one wants to dialog with you. Or more precisely, no one can dialog with you. I was hoping at some... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (rubicon) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/240 Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:06:11 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/reply/239/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html#reply-239
Please tell me what the point of all of this is. If I say "day", you'll say "night". What's to be accomplished? I know you want to debate. I apologize I can't accommodate you .

It is less that you say day, but rather that you say, under APT, "blue sky", 24/7. What is to be accomplished in any discussion other than a clarification or refutation of the assertions made? This site is titled, General... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Art A Layman) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/239 Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:47:38 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/reply/238/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html#reply-238 Art A Layman:

Please tell me what the point of all of this is. If I say "day", you'll say "night". What's to be accomplished?
I know you want to debate. I apologize I can't accommodate you .

I sincerely appreciate your participation here, and wish you would see fit to change your approach. I can't help but think others would be willing to weigh in if it didn't seem like just a two sided exercise between Rubicon and Art A... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (rubicon) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/238 Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:13:36 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/reply/232/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html#reply-232 rubicon:

Individual actions guided by self-interest and morally bound by conscience and law produce the greater good that interventionist ideologies claim as their objective.

You should write revisionist history. Adam Smith made no reference to, morally bound by conscience and law, in his allusion to the invisible hand. You might assume that it's included but he did not mention it. In his time, given the smallness of... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Art A Layman) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/232 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:22:18 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/reply/230/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html#reply-230 Art A Layman:

Your Adam Smith quote is precisely my understanding of the "invisible hand" concept. Many posts ago I made this point very explicitly. Individual actions guided by self-interest and morally bound by conscience and law produce the greater good that interventionist ideologies claim as their objective.

Your problem is you want to play "God" and impose your notions of fairness and equality, and impose a penalty for "greed". The... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (rubicon) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/230 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:21:24 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/reply/228/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html#reply-228 rubicon:

Given that your opening statement is one of opinion, and your opinion at that, I shall receive it with the import it deserves. Should there be any feeling of contrition on my part it might help if I new exactly which assertions are wild. As is your bent, you respond to an encylopedia of statements with one resounding, often absurd, proclamation. That which is unfathomable to you has very few bounds.

You do love that invisible hand... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Art A Layman) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/228 Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:25:49 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/reply/225/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html#reply-225 Art A Layman:

I find it unfathomable that you can be so seemingly well informed yet be so completely wrong. I wonder what it is about your background that warps your perception to such a degree. I'm beginning to think you disagree just for the sake of keeping things going here. It's hard for me to believe you can possibly be serious about your assertions. To paraphrase Hillary Clinton, accepting your wild assertions on face value requires a willing suspension of... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (rubicon) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/225 Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:24:11 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/reply/224/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html#reply-224
My gracious!

In my opinion, he is the Adam Smith of the Information Age.

Pilzer expounds the central concept that got us from hunter-gather to agricultural to industrial to information age. In a word, technology.

Now APT is in a sense a technology.

APT is the prime candidate for the emerging information age.

And just as information age technology is accelerating economic expansion worldwide, so too will APT facilitate... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Art A Layman) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/224 Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:39:39 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/reply/223/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html#reply-223 boydsd:

Most of the APT proponents would appear to be from the Libertatrian or Conservative school of political philosophy. Given that, it is interesting that you premise that APT should be adopted, predicated on the idea that some are incapable of sound financial management. Take away their options, pay no attention to the responsibility behind the curtain, establish a method that automatically imposes tax collection so that he/she won't be burdened with... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Art A Layman) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/223 Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:38:56 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/reply/220/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html#reply-220 fuq220:

I love your question. I recently read a book titled Unlimited Wealth by Paul Zane Pilzer. If you're at all familiar with the history of economics you've probably heard of Thomas Malthus. Well, Paul Pilzer is in my opinion the anti-Malthus.

With Malthus, there are natural limits to wealth and economic increase. Pilzer puts that whole Malthus thing permanently to rest in a very positive, optimistic, common sense way. In my opinion, he is the Adam Smith... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (rubicon) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/220 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:32:15 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/reply/219/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html#reply-219 Now I go through my year of working, paying bills, buying food, paying my mortgage and car payment and generally purchasing everything I need in order to live the comfortable life that I am accustomed to. I am behind on nothing. yet still I have managed to save $20,000, a feat that I have previously never dreamed of in my life. The following year comes and goes and more of the same. I am saving at... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (fug220) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/219 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 10:48:11 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/reply/201/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html#reply-201 Scott:

What you point out here is what first got my attention with APT. Common sense just screams out for a better way. If your goal is to keep people under a constant burden, then what we have now works. If we want to be free of unnecessary lifestyle destruction scenarios, and upgrade our public finance system to the 21st century, then we need to consider something revolutionary like APT.

After at last check 36 posts, your last inquiry as to what would be better... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (rubicon) http://apttax.yuku.com/sreply/201 Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:32:11 GMT <![CDATA[ Negotiated Settlements with IRS ]]> http://apttax.yuku.com/topic/393/t/Negotiated-Settlements-with-IRS.html
I have a neighbor who failed miserably at paying their taxes quarterly for their small business, long story short they eventually ended up owing the IRS $120K. They recently negotiated a settlement of $30K. Poof $90K forgiven. Wouldn't APT even thinks out just a bit so we all get the same impartial treatment? In the case I mention above... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (boydsd) http://apttax.yuku.com/topic/393 Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:46:50 GMT